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桑兰和被告律师之间的精彩问答

热度 24已有 36586 次阅读2015-2-28 10:04 分享到微信

桑兰和被告律师之间的精彩问答_图6-1


桑兰控告海明诽谤,但是她避重就轻,不敢提“U签证”,却拿“黄健性侵狗”来说事。但即便这是鸡毛蒜皮的小事,既然海明说过“桑兰说黄健想带避孕套性侵小美”这样的话,这是不是海明凭空捏造的诽谤之言?双方很可能各执一词,海明说桑兰说过,桑兰说没有说过....... 为了查明事实真相,海明的代表律师黛安娜-麦卡菲就此事对桑兰进行问话(口头取证),双方问答内容如下:(根据英文记录翻译成中文)

律师:回到2011年,你是否有一条叫做“小美”的狗?
桑兰:是的,我有一条狗。
律师:这狗住在哪里?
桑兰:这狗和我们一起住在我们家里。
律师:这狗来纽约了吗?
桑兰:不,没有去美国。
律师:这狗是母的还是公的?
桑兰:这是一条母狗。
律师:这狗还活着吗?
桑兰:是的。
律师:它还在你家吗?
桑兰:是的。
律师:回到2011年,小美被结扎了吗?
桑兰:没有。
律师:回到2011年,小美有没有表现出有性欲望?
桑兰:你是说人还是狗?
律师:狗。
桑兰:你是说性的欲望?
律师:是的。
桑兰:是的,当狗高兴的时候,它有性的欲望,看来它喜欢这样。
律师:它喜欢这样的时候,它如何表现?
桑兰:当它喜欢这样的时候,它咬屁股。
律师:当它见到别的公狗时,它有什么反应?
桑兰:由于我行动困难,大部分时间由我的保姆或黄健来遛狗,如果我的父母在这里,由我父亲或母亲遛狗。有时我也遛狗。从反应来看,公狗都对我们的狗感兴趣,但是它们没有交配或性行为。也许它没有找到合适的。
律师:小美有时是否骑在黄健身上?
桑兰:它会的,它会骑在黄健身上。当它兴奋的时候,它会骑任何人,骑我、黄健、我的父母亲、甚至保姆或任何来我家的陌生人。
律师:你们有没有笑话小美的行为?
桑兰:我不明白你的意思-我有没有笑话小美的行为。
律师:你有没有认为小美这样做很好笑?
桑兰:是的,我是这样认为的,这很好笑,我们的狗很活泼,它喜欢人,我认为我们的狗的个性非常好,它喜欢人。每当它看到人,它就会骑上去。
律师:你觉得这很好笑吗?
桑兰:是的,我觉得这很好笑,我觉得我们的狗个性很好。
律师:你有没有和海明讲过这些笑话?
桑兰:我没有拿我们的狗和别人开玩笑,它是我们家庭的一部分,我不会拿这狗来开玩笑。
律师:如果你没有和海明提起小美,他怎么会知道你家狗的行为?
桑兰:我不论遇到谁都会提到狗。当黄健的朋友来这里,我们也谈到狗。也许我们和海明一起谈过狗,因为他也有狗。
律师:你记不记得和海明谈论狗?
桑兰:不论对谁,我说的都一样,我的狗很可爱,它喜欢人,喜欢朋友,它的个性很好……每当它见到人,就骑上去。我们对谁都这么说。(至此,桑兰的律师和海明、海明的代表律师麦卡菲发生了激烈的争吵,问话到此结束。)

问答虽然结束,
麦卡菲律师的目的已经达到。桑兰疏于防守,无意中透露了对海明很有利的重要信息。

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回复 2011跟你死磕 2015-2-28 18:55
在小美这件事上,我相信海明说的。
回复 2011跟你死磕 2015-2-28 18:53
此案到底是告人强奸人?还是人强奸狗?
回复 中间偏左 2015-2-28 18:36
这俩货真够奇葩的,让支持同情她们的一杆大侠精英情何以堪!
回复 elba 2015-2-28 18:29
看了网友贴的对话,不知说什么好。当初所谓的维权,21亿的世纪大案,到了取证阶段,竟然是这样荒谬不堪。要是桑兰回答莫虎的问话,还不知要出多少笑话呢!
回复 West-East 2015-2-28 18:17
ImYoona: 现在桑海两人对桑兰是否表示过允许黄健性侵狗各执一词,而当时没外人在场,这是天知地知你知我知的事。请刘非律师介绍一下,针对这个案件的指控,从法律上讲现在 ...
在“天知地知你知我知”死无对证的情况下,
如果我是陪审员,我 based on:
1.common sence;
2.logic reasoning,
3.plus person of character, moral character.

如果一个人总说慌,经验法则证明他/她的诚信度有问题,不足采信。
美国不是中国,对假话,假事 有那么宽松的容忍度。特别是在法庭。法官不喜欢听故事。
回复 West-East 2015-2-28 18:01
ImYoona: 这段有趣,既不敢说相信,还不确定,就要告了
这么多。才一篇就花我十几分钟,怎么看的了,放弃。
桑兰的律师和海明的律师赚了。老刘也成了我们看戏党了。
回复 ImYoona 2015-2-28 17:49
West-East: Q. And do you believe that the Lius then reimbursed themselves from your trust fund?
A. It's still under investigation. Right now, I'm not so sure.
Q. ...
这段有趣,既不敢说相信,还不确定,就要告了

补充一下:刚看到这段,在第一部分的31页上,桑兰说刘谢告诉她一些药不能报销是他们自己付的钱,而后来保险公司告诉她都能报销。所以律师接着问刘谢有没有从桑兰基金里报销他们支付的药费。我下午没看懂。
回复 ImYoona 2015-2-28 17:47
West-East: Q. Where did you stay?
A. We lived in rented house.
Q. Who found the rented house for you?
A. Huang Jian said that it was by Hai Ming who found it.
。 ...
当时就交了两个月的房租,没交最后一月
回复 lovebirds 2015-2-28 17:35
  
回复 West-East 2015-2-28 17:23
Q. Where did you stay?
A. We lived in rented house.
Q. Who found the rented house for you?
A. Huang Jian said that it was by Hai Ming who found it.
。。。
桑黄来美打官司住在海明找来的房子。最后她们不通知海明,不通知房东,不交钥匙,也不付租金(后来回大陆在海明的追讨下补交了点)就跑了。
和海明说的相符。证明了海明在这件事上的诚实。

桑兰的律师MR. GOLASZEWSKI 处于下风。他的Objection几乎都被rejected.
但他最后和海明在翻译的问题上好像占了上风。海明实在不适合做律师。嘴巴太大。
回复 West-East 2015-2-28 17:20
Q. They said I was lazy. =》桑兰自己证明她懒到家了。
Q. And, for one instance, my agent told me that they said they would slap on me.。。To slap on my face.
=>黄建 告诉桑兰说 老刘说要抽她,煽她的耳光。连她自己的律师 都在question “slap”?

Q. Do you know a blogger named Sun Ying? (=》孙鹰在哪?想念。

A. To obtain the attorney to -- to file the lawsuit in -- to file the lawsuit in the states, the lawsuit against the Time Warner Cable and Americas.
MR. GOLASZEWSKI: Americans? =》桑兰自己的律师问她,你是告美国,还是告美国人?
THE INTERPRETER: Americans. Sorry.
Q. Did you want to file a lawsuit against Time Warner and the Americans?
A. Correct. We were ready to file the lawsuit in the states -- lawsuits in the states.
A. What else did we talk about? We did not say much, because filing the lawsuit in the states was part of his job.
Q. Whose job?
A. My agent, Huang Jian.
笑死了,黄建的job是告美国,告美国人。
回复 West-East 2015-2-28 17:10
Q. And do you believe that the Lius then reimbursed themselves from your trust fund?
A. It's still under investigation. Right now, I'm not so sure.
Q. You are not so sure that they used money from the trust fund to reimburse them or -- strike that. What are you not so sure about?
A. You are talking about if they used the trust fund money to pay for it? That's what you asked me earlier; right?
Q. Right.
A. That's why -- that's why I said, I am not so sure if they used the money to reimburse. The
case is still pending. It's still under investigation.

=》桑兰仅是怀疑老刘贪了她的基金,“I am not so sure”,就开告。
It's still under investigation.
要美国法院给她调查老刘,帮她找证据。黄经济不是学了法律吗?谁提告谁举证不懂?
回复 West-East 2015-2-28 17:02
Q. And do you -- do you have SinoVision
A. Sina.com.
A. In reference to this, I have -- I have never written anything or posted anything in the sina.com Weibo. It has been my agent who -- who did that in the past.
Q. Would your agent ask you to review things before he posted them?
A. No.
A. Because I -- I did not -- normally, he would not let me know before he posted it. because all my Weibo was written by him.

=》桑兰真懒。never written anything
她自己什么也没写,连看都不看,就挂个名收钱。那么她sina博客的损失还成立吗?

Q. What is the age range for the National Youth Federation, to your knowledge?
A. The age range -- the age range -- believe I did not review the details. Maybe, people must be over the age of 18.
Q. And under what age?
A. I'm not very clear about -- I did not read the details myself.

=》桑兰至今还是 National Youth Federation,但她连这个代表的资格都没搞清。她代表什么?
希望她的话让国人知道这个青年代表是个什么都不写不看,让个黄建摆布的木偶。
或者桑毒把一切错误和罪过都推给了黄建!
回复 West-East 2015-2-28 16:56
今天才有时间看一下文件。好多。
桑答 deposition 1,3/11/2014。就是老刘这一帖引用的。

Q. Who is in the room with you today?
A. My mother. (=>黄建不在,是因为也是当事人回避吗?)
Q. Okay. Have you been a plaintiff in a lawsuit before?
A. No. (=>诉老刘在先呀。后面就律师就给问出来了。)
Q. Have you ever sued anyone besides Mr. Ming Hai?
A. No. Are you referring to this case?
Because I have other cases at the federal court.
Q. Correct. That's what I was asking about. What are the other cases at the federal court?
A. I filed a lawsuit against Time Warner and the agent I used to be with at the time.
(=>除了Time Warner and the agent,老刘,还有一堆吧,连上酱豆?)
(=>老刘怎么成了agent? 有sign contract, 付 agent 费吗?)

Q. Okay. Who was the agent that you used to be with at the time?
A. The -- my former representatives in the states. That's KS Liu and Winston Sie.
THE INTERPRETER: Gina Liu. I'm sorry. Not Winston.
Q. Anybody else in that lawsuit?
A. Only these people.
...
Q. Did you look through any documents?
A. These documents, I did not look at them, because I was in the hospital this afternoon. And the documents are in English, so I do not understand them.
(=>没看,不懂的documents 就敢用?)
回复 West-East 2015-2-28 16:52
明月娘: 今又是他老婆是个洗臭脚的,找又是。
他娘, 你也不要在这歪楼了。
回复 明月娘 2015-2-28 15:18
今又是他老婆是个洗臭脚的,找又是。
回复 West-East 2015-2-28 14:18
ksliu: 在没有任何证明的情况下,就看陪审团相信谁的说法,而陪审团就是你我这样的普通人,信谁或不信谁,你我都有一定的常识和判断标准,但是我认为他们不会因为同情残 ...
桑兰这个回答,对海明是有利的。至少海明的话不是无中生有,是有根据的。
至于海明有没有进一步夸大或宣染,就是有,过失也小的多了。

桑兰这回诚实了一把。蠢不蠢呢?她如果说狗没有性欲,或不知道,海明方不可能上北京去抓那条狗来鉴定。
回复 linton 2015-2-28 13:30
律师问话很专业,三两下就把桑绕进去了。
倾向于海明说的可能是真的,因为这是一种情景式对话。
而且二人做事确实没底线,桑否认海明是要否认此对话所引起的不良影响。
回复 明月娘 2015-2-28 11:27
太精彩啦。
回复 不说不痛快2011 2015-2-28 11:17
确实精彩,LOL。我当时看到这段,开始相信海明说的,呵呵

以下这段也很精彩。

海明问答:

Q. Fine. In Exhibit 3, Lan Sang writes, quote, I told my agent to send him a message to tell Ming Hai, stop talking about my case in public. Is that true?

A. Partially true.

Q. Okay.

A. I think -- yeah, you know. That's -- actually, I appreciate that statement, because that shows who contact whom first. Sang Lan told her agent, which is her husband today, Huang Jian, to contact me first --

桑兰问答:

Q. Do you know Ming Hai?

A. Yes.

Q. How do you know Ming Hai?

A. He is my former lawyer.

Q. And how did you -- how did you meet him?

A. It was my agent who contacted him.

Q. Why did your agent contact him?

A. I don't know. They knew each other on Internet. As how they met, I don't know.

Q. What was the purpose for her agent contacting Ming Hai?

A. I don't know if my agent contacted him or who contacted who, but they knew each other on the Internet.

Q. You don't -- so why -- why did your agent contact Hai Ming?

A. I don't know. How they became in contact, I don't know.

Q. Do you know why

A. As to why, I don't know. My agent just told me they knew each other on the Internet.

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