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老美看美国::犹太人后裔现身说法再谈种族歧视

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老美看美国::种族主义的数学之“与村民探讨篇”

/ 他爹 翻译 / 他娘

 

我的第一篇文章引起这么热烈的讨论,实在令我惊讶。让我有了就同样的话题再写一篇的冲动。许多人问我数据引用的出处,或者到哪里找这些信息。以下是相关链接:

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/node/64


许多评论直接就在继续我们这个社会里种族分子的倾向,即使统计数字已经显示了明显的不公。对此我并不惊讶。


记得我小时候,大概七八岁吧。母亲提醒我不要谈论或提自己父亲的犹太人血统。虽然我从小当基督徒养育的,我父亲的家族祖先是德国犹太人。事实上,我父亲自己的朋友甚至都不知道他的家族是犹太人。


很多年后,我才懂得我母亲为啥让我们隐瞒这部分家史。因为当时社会不喜欢犹太人。即使我自己不是犹太人(犹太人只有通过母亲传承),我仍然很好奇。长大一些后,我才看到和听到犹太人作为整体是如何被当时的社会对待和看待的。


记得我十五,六岁的时候,我和父亲及父亲的朋友一起去打猎。一天晚上,在我们的帐篷里,所有的大人们都在谈论他们在第二次世界大战和德国集中营时期的经历。令人惊诧地是,他们中大部分人居然对纳粹杀害犹太人的事情并没有介意。他们万万没有想到,他们自己身边的好朋友,同事,我的父亲,就是一个犹太人。对他们来讲,他就是ROY。如果他继续保留他原来的姓氏“Schienermann,他们可能能猜到他是犹太人。但是,我的家族近100年前就放弃了那个家族姓氏以便更 “美国化”。


如果他们知道了我父亲的身份,他们对我父亲的看法会不一样吗?绝对会。


这里的问题是我父亲的朋友们只了解那个时候教给他们的东西。他们没有一个人认识犹太人也从来不认识犹太人。他们都是在乡下小镇上或者是农村里或俄勒冈州的农场长大的。但是,他们的种族歧视(如果你也和我一样认为犹太人是一个族裔而不是一个宗教的话)是很明显的。他们了解犹太人是多么多么坏,以及他们都干些什么坏事的故事,但是,他们从来没亲眼见过。他们所知道的都是听来的---从哪些和他们一样的人那里听来的,而那些人也没有亲眼见过任何这些所谓的坏事。


我父亲与他们一起打猎有近20年直到他们一个个都老的打不动猎了。他们现在都已不在人世,我的父亲,也已离去。他们的故事属于他们的历史和他们那个时代。


但是,我父亲的每个朋友到了坟墓都还是想着我的父亲是一个多么了不起的人,一个诚实的人,一个以家庭为重的人,一个努力工作的人。他有着那些优点,但是,他还是一个犹太人,但是他们都不知道这一点。


种族歧视和不容忍以许多形式在许多不同类型的人中间存在。当黑人遭受我们的文化中已经制度化的种族歧视时,亚裔也开始受到攻击。过去一年乃至最近就有两个亚裔美军士兵因为不堪忍受同事的嘲笑奚落以及骚扰而自杀。


19962006十年间,有所美国大学--康奈尔大学就有21件学生自杀案。 (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/usa/2009-10/19/content_11005682.htm ) 21个自杀的学生中,13个是亚裔!亚裔学生只有全校学生总数的百分之十四,但是自杀率却是百分之四十!为什么?我不认为亚裔比其他族裔更频繁自杀。他们自杀是因为受到同事的压力。


就像黑人与白人相比,犯同样的罪,入狱比率是白人的10倍一样,是社会舆论和看法认为黑人人均比白人犯罪率更高。也许是。但是,事实就是事实----犯同样的罪,黑人被扔进监狱的比率与白人入狱的比率是101。这就是不公平。


你们每一个看来我的上一篇文章并发表评论的朋友,我强烈建议你们考虑一下问题,并自己做点研究,挑战你在以下方面的看法:


1.      享受社会福利的是黑人多还是白人更多?

2.      享用食物券的黑人多还是白人多?

3.      如果你拥有一家公司,收到一份简历,上面的姓氏是 Lateka”, 你会打电话叫那个人来面试吗?

4.      犯有同样罪,获死刑的是黑人多,还是白人多?


我知道答案。但是,我的看法是:只有亲自寻找,而非道听途说,你才能了解事实真相。道听途说只会延续一个没有事实根据的故事。


正如我前段时间写的文章那些人来抓其他人的时候,不要无动于衷,不施援手,因为不知道哪一天,你会发现自己已经成为孤家寡人,孤立无援。



 

(原文)                          THE MATHEMATICS OF RACISM

PART II

 

I am  surprised by many of the comments posted regarding the first article – which has inspired me to write PART II. Many of you asked for the notations or where to find the info, see link:

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/node/64

What does not surprise me is that many of the comments play directly into continuing the racist tendencies of our society even though statistics show a distinct unfairness.

I recall as a young boy, perhaps when I was 7 or 8 years old – being reminded by my mother not to talk about or mention my own fathers Jewish heritage. Although I was raised as a Christian – my fathers side of the family had a Jewish ancestry from Germany. In fact, none of my own fathers friends even knew of his families “Jewishness”.

It took me some years to understand why my mother wanted me to “hide” this part of our family. Society didn’t like Jews. Even though I wasn’t Jewish ( you can only be Jewish through your maternal parentage ) I was still curious. As I grew older I could see and hear how Jews were treated and thought of by society as a whole.

I remember a time when I was about 15 or 16 years old and I was on a hunting trip with my father and his friends. One evening in our camp all the older men were talking about their experience during World War II and the concentration camps in Germany. Surprisingly, most of the men their weren’t bothered by the Nazi’s efforts to kill all the Jews. They had no idea that their good friend and co-worker, my father, was a Jew. To them he was Roy Snyder. They may have guessed he was Jewish if he still carried the old family name – Schniedermann. But, our family had disposed of that name decades before to become “Americanized”. 

Would their view of my father been different if they had known? Absolutely.

The point here is that my fathers friends only knew what society had taught them. None of them knew a Jew or had ever known a Jew. They had all grown up in rural towns and farm communities or on farms in the state of Oregon. But, their racism ( if you consider Jews a race rather than a religion as I do ) was obvious. They knew all the “stories” about how bad Jews were and what they do – but, they had never seen it for themselves. All they knew is what they had been told – which came from people who like them had probably been told the same thing but also had never seen any of these “bad” things for themselves.

For over 20 years my father and his friends gathered every fall for their annual hunting trip until one by one they all became too old to go hunting any longer. They are all gone now, my father too, long dead and their own stories belong to history and the ages.

But, each of my fathers friends went to their graves thinking my father was a wonderful man, an honest man, a family man, a hard worker. And he was all of those things. But, he was also a Jew and they never knew that.

Racism and intolerance come in many forms directed at many types of people. While blacks suffer from a systemic racism in our culture Asians are now coming under attack. In the past year and just recently 2 U.S. military young men both Asians committed suicide because of the taunting and harassment they suffered at the hands of their peers.

At one U.S. university--Cornell University (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/usa/2009-10/19/content_11005682.htm ) in the years from 1996 to 2006 there were 21 suicides by students. Of those 21 students who killed themselves 13 were Asian! While Asians were only 14% of the students at the school they represented 62% of the suicides ! Why? I don’t think Asians commit suicide any more often than any other group. They committed suicide because of pressure from their peers.

Just like black men are 10 times more likely to be put in prison than a white man for the same crime it is the society opinion and view that blacks commit more crimes than whites per capita. Perhaps they do. But, the fact is still a fact – for the same exact crime a black man will be put in prison by a ration of 10:1 as compared to a white man. That’s not fair.

To each of you who read the article and commented I urge you to consider the following and do your own research to challenge what your own views are on the following:

1.      Are there more white people or black people on welfare?

2.      Are there more white people or black people receiving food stamps

3.      If you owned a company and were reviewing a resume and the name on it was “Lateka” would you call that person in for an interview?

4.      What percentage of black men are executed for crimes as compared to white men for the same exact crime?

I know the answers. But, my view is that you only learn something when you find it for yourself rather than being told. Being told something more often than not only perpetuates a story that often times has no basis in fact.

As I wrote in an earlier article – don’t let them come for all the others and not stand up for them, someday you may find yourself standing all alone.

 


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回复 光头 2012-1-23 03:49
关键首先要尊重自己的民族和祖国,同样是亚裔,日本与中国两者之间就有明显的区别。回忆抗战的我们?再对照当今的政府,我们的民族真是岌岌可危。二战后的几十年里,以色列特工在全球苦苦追杀纳粹战犯,定点清除国家的所有敌人,可我们中国却在迫害抗日老将?我们的政府高官却在窃取国家财富外逃?这就是民族精神的区别。更超级的区别是中外区别,任何国家为了保护本国公民,强势对外,而我们的政府恰恰相反。看看国内的城管与南海?中华民族离灭亡不会太久。
回复 theLinmingda 2012-1-22 03:24
丹奇: 哈哈哈哈,假如他能有这个想法,就不会自杀了。
没有原告,此案成立吗?
回复 光头 2012-1-22 01:56
超级欣赏!
回复 theLinmingda 2012-1-21 19:48
丹奇: 哈哈哈哈,假如他能有这个想法,就不会自杀了。
绝望的悲剧。他忘记了:要是我在战斗中牺牲,朋友会献上美丽的花!自己解放自己!
赐给的幸福不珍贵!
拜年
回复 丹奇 2012-1-21 13:13
theLinmingda: 对施害者,不只是谴责,是绳之以法。不惜同归于尽,让他占不了便宜!
哈哈哈哈,假如他能有这个想法,就不会自杀了。
回复 theLinmingda 2012-1-21 12:55
丹奇: 理解。但是有血性的如吉鸿昌,关键时刻自卫反击的,看个性,没法强求。这些自杀者,是弱者,是歧视的受害者。我们要谴责施害者,不是受害者。 ...
对施害者,不只是谴责,是绳之以法。不惜同归于尽,让他占不了便宜!
回复 丹奇 2012-1-21 12:16
theLinmingda: 不是,是把问题转嫁给了同类;吉鸿昌的名言:“…也要咬他一口”。也要浪费他的一切。正义靠自己不惜一切地去申张 ...
理解。但是有血性的如吉鸿昌,关键时刻自卫反击的,看个性,没法强求。这些自杀者,是弱者,是歧视的受害者。我们要谴责施害者,不是受害者。
回复 theLinmingda 2012-1-21 12:11
丹奇: 理解,但是,当他们选择自杀的时候,实际是也是一种绝望后的勇敢。多少人怕死啊。
不是,是把问题转嫁给了同类;吉鸿昌的名言:“…也要咬他一口”。也要浪费他的一切。正义靠自己不惜一切地去申张
回复 lilin304 2012-1-21 12:11
是啊,中国这么一个大国,人口又多。如自强,团结,那中国会强大的,那时,谁还敢欺负我们。祝朋友新年快乐。
回复 丹奇 2012-1-21 10:50
纽约桃花: 谢谢丹奇的问候与祝福。除夕有什么庆祝活动吗?一定忙的很吧。也祝你閤家吉祥,春节快乐!
社区有不同大小的庙会。还有几个公务活动。还算清闲。给你拜年了!
回复 丹奇 2012-1-21 10:48
theLinmingda: 自杀是懦弱!公正靠以命相搏,自己的事情自己做。
理解,但是,当他们选择自杀的时候,实际是也是一种绝望后的勇敢。多少人怕死啊。
回复 丹奇 2012-1-21 10:47
lilin304: 歧视古今中外都有。犹太人在二战中,因为没有自己的国家,人民都散在各个国家。当时的欧洲信的是基督教,而犹太人只信犹太教,所以犹太人都被欧洲人看不起。德国法西 ...
所以,以史为镜,华人也要自强并团结才行啊。
回复 纽约桃花 2012-1-21 10:25
丹奇: 也感谢桃花分享自己的故事。除夕将至,祝福你万事如意。心想事成!
谢谢丹奇的问候与祝福。除夕有什么庆祝活动吗?一定忙的很吧。也祝你閤家吉祥,春节快乐!
回复 theLinmingda 2012-1-21 09:15
自杀是懦弱!公正靠以命相搏,自己的事情自己做。
回复 lilin304 2012-1-21 00:20
歧视古今中外都有。犹太人在二战中,因为没有自己的国家,人民都散在各个国家。当时的欧洲信的是基督教,而犹太人只信犹太教,所以犹太人都被欧洲人看不起。德国法西斯上台后,就大肆歧视犹太人,迫害和杀戮犹太人,杀了600万犹太人,其实据历史记载包括各国犹太人,总共被杀害了有1100万人。由于犹太人聪明,坚强,自爱,自重,在中东成了强大的国家,尽管人口很少,但很发达,五次中东战争都没有打垮它(当然有大国的支持)这就是一个强大的民族,是我们应该学习的。
回复 丹奇 2012-1-21 00:01
LionKing: 美国华裔议员赵美心的侄子(新移民),美国海军陆战队员廖梓源(Harry Lew),2011年4月3日在阿富汗美军基地自杀,同基地的另外三名美国军人被判欺凌廖梓源刑事 ...
这下赵美心应该知道自己该做啥了。
回复 LionKing 2012-1-20 23:25
美国华裔议员赵美心的侄子(新移民),美国海军陆战队员廖梓源(Harry Lew),2011年4月3日在阿富汗美军基地自杀,同基地的另外三名美国军人被判欺凌廖梓源刑事罪。

陈宇辉,纽约曼哈顿华埠人,2011年10月3日在阿富汗阿富汗,时年19岁。
陈宇晖在日记中写道,别人取笑他华裔背景,他以笑话回应,“穷尽”了所有笑话。
8名士兵受到指控,正在调查中。




当然自杀不是由于取笑,但是可见军种对少数民族的态度。
纽约市议院陈倩雯提案要求保护军队对少数族裔士兵。
回复 丹奇 2012-1-20 22:43
纽约桃花: 感谢丹奇与孩他爹的文章,让我们有一个自我审视的机会!
也感谢桃花分享自己的故事。除夕将至,祝福你万事如意。心想事成!
回复 纽约桃花 2012-1-20 22:38
感谢丹奇与孩他爹的文章,让我们有一个自我审视的机会!
回复 丹奇 2012-1-20 21:54
国际盲流: 万分感谢详细的介绍!赞丹奇!
健康是最佳的礼物,知足是最大的财富,信心是最好的品德,关心是最真挚的问候,祝福是最美好的话语。祝你新年快乐!平安幸福!给 ...
不用谢,分享他爹的文章也是让我们多一个角度理解美国人,帮助我们自己看清自己的位置。

新年除夕将至,给您拜大年了!
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